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paul123
17-11-2012, 12:59 PM
Hi,
Does anyone have any reviews of the 2.5L turbo diesel d22
Thanks.

Redeye
17-11-2012, 01:45 PM
http://www.caradvice.com.au/159082/2012-nissan-navara-review/

imoww
17-11-2012, 03:16 PM
Interesting. Im in the market for a Nissan diesel also. But maybe 1 or2 years old.

paul123
17-11-2012, 10:17 PM
I looked at an 08 model for $20000 with the old 3L dieseengine, but got a price for a new one $29500.with a tow pack and tub liner but It's the new 2.5L diesel. Just curious if anyone drives one of these.

Cranbourne Lawnmowing
18-11-2012, 10:09 AM
I've got the 2011 dual cab ute. Got it brand new cause a second hand one was'nt much cheaper than a newbie. Love it. It does stuggle a bit to get going from a stand still on a hill while towing my trailer unless I do a hand brake start so I can get the rev's up.

Is there anything specific you would like to know?

BCMS
18-11-2012, 11:48 AM
I've got one, 2011 model.
It does what I bought it to do (work) really well. Tows the trailer every day and averages ~12l/100km. Definitely a bit slow on a hill start though.
I have clocked up 32,000kms since Feb and it has not missed a beat.
Drops to ~9l/100km on the highway with no trailer and I have towed everything up to a loaded falcon on a big car trailer (~2800kg) without a problem.
Currently looking at a lift kit, snorkel, bullbar and chip so I can get it a bit better sorted for family camping trips on the weekend.

I also bought new as it wasn't worth buying a second hand one as they hold their value really well

paul123
18-11-2012, 12:54 PM
That's cool, I have spoken to a couple of people will the 3L who said the 2.5L didn't have enough torque for everyday towing.
But sounds like it does the job

BCMS
18-11-2012, 10:59 PM
3.0l makes 110kw and 314Nm, 2.5 makes 98kw and 304nm.
Both make peak torque at 2000rpm 3.0 makes max power at 3400rpm with the 2.5 making it's peak 200rpm later at 3600rpm.

There is really stuff all difference but the 3.0l has a bit of a reputation for being a hand grenade (google the zd30 engine and there are heaps of stories) and the 2.5l runs common rail injection and is a bit (again stuff all) more economical.

The D40 runs a very similar 2.5 but in a higher state of tune at 140kw and 450nm (126kw/403nm in the earlier D40's)

imoww
20-11-2012, 04:43 PM
Hey guys.
I have a choice . Both from a dealer.
2010 NISSAN NAVARA D22 MY2009 ST-R (4X4) no rego or
2010 NISSAN NAVARA D40 RX. (rear drive) rego
Both same price.
ANy ideas???

Redeye
20-11-2012, 07:11 PM
d22, ask him to register it

edbeek
20-11-2012, 07:41 PM
Both have a 2.5L engine, but looks like the D40 RX has electronic injection. Gives it 126kW power/403Nm torque vs 98kW/304 Nm for the D22.

The 4wd has 2800kg braked towing capacity and the 2wd has 2000kg. http://www.redbook.com.au/cars/research/used/models?Ext=GroupResult&sort=default&N=3205+3320%204294947575%204294842972&Range=Year:2010,2010&vertical=Car&silo=Spec&eapi=2

Private sale guide for the ST-R D40 MY2009 is $21.7k- $24.2, and the RX D40 is $20.6k- $23k

Depends on the condition/mileage of each and if you need 4wd or not.

imoww
20-11-2012, 07:50 PM
Thanks guys.
2010 NISSAN NAVARA D22 MY2009 ST-R. $24,800 (80114 Klm)
2010 NISSAN NAVARA D40 RX. $25,990 (39300 Klm)
i have a 6x4 trailer which will soon be upgraded to an enclosed proper mowing trailer.
Im not sure if i need the 4x4 tho...

imoww
20-11-2012, 08:37 PM
Im gonna settle for the 2010 NISSAN NAVARA D40 RX. Better for towing and a better unit al over..

BCMS
21-11-2012, 03:18 PM
I'd go the D22. Having low range is very handy for manouvering a trailer in tight areas and the 4wd means you can get out of slippery spots (ie wet grass slope) without ripping up the surface.
Downside is the reduced steering lock that comes with 4wd.

D40 and D22 2.5 engines are the same, they just detuned the D22 version as it doesn't sell cars when the lower grade model performs better than the up market version. A chip fixes this and gives you more power than the stock D40.

The D40 is much more car like than the D22 though as it runs macpherson strut front suspension instead of the torsion bar wishbone setup of the D22.

For those prices I would pony up the extra $3 - 4000 and get a brand new D22 with full warranty and fixed price servicing.

ian
21-11-2012, 04:25 PM
D24 rrp $29,888 http://www.nissan.com.au/webpages/models/Navara_D22_model.html and that's rrp so you should be able to squeeze the dealer for more

imoww
07-02-2013, 09:21 PM
I bought the D40. as a few said here, its a bit slow on take off but overall... not bad. Today, i found the rear lights not working. or stop lights.
blown fuse. Also found water in the light with a small whole. ( shorting out)
I emptied the water, put metho into the light and after it dryed out, replaced the fuse & break lights now working. Still no rear lights tho...?
Any ideas??? Im getting it looked at with it's warranty service next week. But thought id ask around for the short term.

ian
07-02-2013, 10:28 PM
different fuse ? I'm sure the rear lights on my van are on a different fuse to the brake lights
apparently they are under the bonnet on the passenger side

Scooby Steve
07-02-2013, 10:33 PM
Aren't these having troubles with there engines..........i've heard reports of some going bang? I know the 3 lt diesel was well known for dropping a cylinder but i think the 2.5 is also having issues.

PaulG
07-02-2013, 11:12 PM
I bought the D40. as a few said here, its a bit slow on take off but overall... not bad. Today, i found the rear lights not working. or stop lights.
blown fuse. Also found water in the light with a small whole. ( shorting out)
I emptied the water, put metho into the light and after it dryed out, replaced the fuse & break lights now working. Still no rear lights tho...?
Any ideas??? Im getting it looked at with it's warranty service next week. But thought id ask around for the short term.

Check the wiring to the towbar/trailer where it is spliced into the brake-light wiring. Guaranteed it will need redoing.

EDIT: Although, if the brake lights are working and the tail-lights are not (or vice-versa) it could just be the bulbs.

BCMS
08-02-2013, 05:35 PM
Aren't these having troubles with there engines..........i've heard reports of some going bang? I know the 3 lt diesel was well known for dropping a cylinder but i think the 2.5 is also having issues.

My D22 2.5 is still going strong, just clocked 40,000km in 12 months with out missing a beat.

It's going to be for sale in a month or so.

The 3l was renowned for blowing up turbo's and ingesting the compressor blades. I have had two mates 3l D22's do exactly that.

TomS
09-02-2013, 11:18 AM
Clearly you are in the market for a newish one but others might be interested in older Navaras. I had the D22, 2006. Bought it hail-damaged at auction for $13k and sold it privatly for 14K 6 months later.

Loved it to drive, heaps of guts for towing. fuel consumption was ok too. The 4wd was instantly essential.

It was very rough and cramped in the rear seats. The kids refused to go anywhere with me unless they got the front which took a bit of fun out of the family 4wd trips everyone thinks they will do. And the turning circle was outrageously bad. having had utes before I found the little tub a complete pain.

I realised I needed a family car that could tow a trailer. If its just a work vehicle a trayback ute would be twice as good as a dual cab ute. I reckon the dual cab idea is a bit overated.. it doesn't do either job well. Got a Hyundai Terracan- the poor mans' Pajero- and its great.

Tom

ian
09-02-2013, 11:22 AM
i think one of the major advantages of the dual cab is tax as it's classed as a work vehicle whereas a sedan may not be

paul123
17-02-2013, 06:57 PM
I ended up getting a triton 4x4 as the d22 was too small in the rear seat, have to put two child seats in. The d22 has no child seat anchor points from the factory. The Triton is great havn't looked back. has the 3 tonne tow capacity which is great for the new trailer (and the caravan).
Thanks for the advice on here.

BCMS
17-02-2013, 09:29 PM
My D22 came with 2 child seat anchor points from the factory, it is pretty tight with two child seats in there though

DavidS
18-02-2013, 05:49 AM
If the Nissan is a Manual, just be aware that towing heavy loads in 5th gear will over time cause it to bugger fifth gear bearing which will mean a few grand to repair or even more to replace. Toyota was having the same problem. Early Fords and Mazda utes did the same thing. Thats why the manufacturers now recommend using a Auto to tow with, even so with a caravan you should start out in 1st with the auto, then move the gear lever up through the gears. I have been researching a tow rig for a 24' caravan for awhile and this is what I have be told by a few mechanics.

imoww
18-02-2013, 06:19 AM
I got the Nissan D40 back from the dealer yesterday. Serviced checked and repaired. The electrical fault was the main fuse...?

Fred's mowing
18-02-2013, 08:01 AM
If the Nissan is a Manual, just be aware that towing heavy loads in 5th gear will over time cause it to bugger fifth gear bearing which will mean a few grand to repair or even more to replace. Toyota was having the same problem. Early Fords and Mazda utes did the same thing. Thats why the manufacturers now recommend using a Auto to tow with, even so with a caravan you should start out in 1st with the auto, then move the gear lever up through the gears. I have been researching a tow rig for a 24' caravan for awhile and this is what I have be told by a few mechanics.

Hi David, I hear ya with towing in overdrive in a manual but, towing with an auto seems to be open to even more debate?
Go to the caravanners forum & its one of those topics like, which whippy line, which 2 stroke oil etc, on here.
24'eh? Thats a bigun! You'll need some cahoonies for that.
Sorry Paul 123 for thread hijack.
Cheers Fred.

DavidS
21-02-2013, 06:00 PM
Yeah Fred it's a big one, I have been advised to look at 19 to 22 feet vans. Having had a look at some last Saturday we will be looking at 21foot van. I just do what the boss wants, the ute is mine tho so I will get what I want(LOL only if she lets me)

brettly
22-02-2013, 05:20 PM
What truck are you using at the moment David? ..I just got myself a tandem 10x5 trailer gvm 2000kg and towing auto 6cyl BA 1tonner.. Thinking I may have to get a bigger rig to tow the beast:).. Will post some pics of it later.

South East Mowing
22-02-2013, 06:40 PM
What truck are you using at the moment David? ..I just got myself a tandem 10x5 trailer gvm 2000kg and towing auto 6cyl BA 1tonner.. Thinking I may have to get a bigger rig to tow the beast:).. Will post some pics of it later.

Hi Brettly, i have a bf 1 tonner and tow approx 1400kg on average once a week. You need to treat it nicely otherwise it will wear it out quickly from what I have been told. Ok for the occasional use but everyday and you could be spending big bucks.

brettly
22-02-2013, 08:20 PM
Hi Brettly, i have a bf 1 tonner and tow approx 1400kg on average once a week. You need to treat it nicely otherwise it will wear it out quickly from what I have been told. Ok for the occasional use but everyday and you could be spending big bucks.

Yea I was basically only going to use it for the larger jobs/clean ups etc. mind you dual-axle would be dearer at the tip, on the other hand it works perfectly for the ride-on.8x5 internal + 2x5 for mower box.

brettly
22-02-2013, 08:33 PM
Few pics.. Got it for 2g 11months rego with 4 new tyres.. Only one issue the right blinker no work.
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Going to try and get the rust out mainly surface and give it a good prime with nice topcoat.

BCMS
25-02-2013, 08:33 PM
I tow ~800kg 5 days a week with my D22 2.5crd Navara and have had no issues at all in the 40,000kms I have owned it.
I often tow ~1800kg on the weekends (race car on trailer) with the tray full of tools.

The 5 speed still shifts sweetly and doesn't make any unusual noises.

A mate has been towing his work trailer daily (~1500kg) and his rally car at least once a month (~1800kgs) with his D22 and has not had an issue in ~170,000kms.

We both use 5th as much as possible.

Blaktop
26-02-2013, 04:53 PM
I just wrote off my '99 V6 auto Rodeo single cab (on gas).....insurance is paying out $5500, I just found a '99 V6 manual, dual cab 4x4 on gas for $5k (less kms as well)......it's only a work/fishing ute so it looks perfect. In my case I can't see any value in spending up big for a work ute since we have a family car (and there's only two of us....:)). Just waiting for confirmation from NRMA that it's definitely going to be written off (panel shop is 99% sure).

I'm very suss on towing with a bog standard auto, done a couple of days with the Falcon and 800kg trailer.....I wouldn't want to do it too much. The old Rodeo always did the job but always sounded like it was doing it hard.......I've always preferred towing with a manual. When I was abalone diving in SA a few years back we used to tow 4 tonne boats with Landcruiser utes......keep out of 5th and you'll have no problems. 4th is generally 1:1 gearing (i.e. straight through the gearbox) and overdrive 5th usually hangs off the reverse gear idler so straining it just stuffs the gearbox.....perfect for cruising but not for towing.

If you're going to tow with an auto, disconnect the transmission cooler in the radiator and fit an aftermarket high volume one......using the stock one under heavy load reduces your radiator's ability to cool.....both the engine and trans.

PaulG
26-02-2013, 05:41 PM
Regular gearbox servicing is the key too. Change the trans fluid yearly and the gearbox will live a happy life, especially with an auto.

Scooby Steve
26-02-2013, 08:06 PM
If you're going to tow with an auto, disconnect the transmission cooler in the radiator and fit an aftermarket high volume one......using the stock one under heavy load reduces your radiator's ability to cool.....both the engine and trans.

And in the case of BA and i think BF falcons fit an aftermarket cooler if towing a lot as the factory one eventually lets water into the transmission oil cooking the tranny in the process. Aftermarket ones are pretty cheap to supply and fit.

imoww
23-09-2013, 07:17 AM
My Nissan D40 has now clocked 74K. Hasnt missed a beat. I tow 2 different trailers every day. Only issue i would say with diesels is ... services are more often than petrols.

BeetleJuice
07-03-2014, 09:35 PM
I had set my mind on getting a Navara until a few blokes told me a few things about them.

Diesel fuel pump $4000 ..or a complete fuel rail $5000.
Then another story from a guy who had a Xtrail and needed a new clutch..Over $2000

Known as the 10' pole car..stay away from them unless you got money to burn

BCMS
09-03-2014, 10:07 PM
You can buy a reco D22 injector pump with 2 years warranty for under $2000
The fuel rail's are around $1100, can't imagine either would cost too much to fit.

You can get d22 clutches for under $500, and the xtrail is a completely different car with a east west engine as opposed to the Navara's north south layout.

A navara and a pathfinder have a lot in common though.

Sounds like someone has been telling you porkies

BeetleJuice
09-03-2014, 10:15 PM
All info and prices were supplied on the navara forum
As they said the rail and pump will put you back $9000 for genuine parts,.and if it were a petrol Navara the pump would only be a couple hundred bucks

BCMS
10-03-2014, 06:07 PM
Just spent five minutes on google

Reco injector pump $880 change over
http://www.dencodiesel.com/diesel-injector-pumps/5073-exchange-fuel-pump-common-rail-294000-037-.html

Fuel rail $1100 genuine Nissan, brand new
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NISSAN-NAVARA-D22-FUEL-RAIL-COMMOM-RAIL-2-5L-/181327016461?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a37eeb20d

I never had a problem with my 2012 Navara in 50,000kms and it was never babied.

If you did have problems outside of warranty you would be foolish to go to a Nissan dealer

Sometimes it pays to check for yourself.....