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South East Mowing
29-05-2018, 04:42 PM
Anyone use alarms for their tool boxes?

If so what do you use and what are the pros and cons?

Have 2 locks on each tool box but that does not necessarily stop break ins now.

Macka
29-05-2018, 06:03 PM
I have Un-secured Insurance so dont lock anything, but i am thinking of getting front and back dashcams.

RSM-Gazza
29-05-2018, 06:19 PM
I'm sure your referring to when on the road travelling mainly.

But I'll share the below.
At night my whole rig Hilux/Tandem Trailer and most gear is under house night perimeter alarm, with remaining equipment in the rear yard shed included in that perimeter seal via wifi into the master house Paradox Alarm unit. (All battery backed up)
Also rear yard/front/sides and rear shed together with house garage all under commercial grade day/night vision HD CCTV small Turret units, assessable live by my iphone/ipad app. So if one heard a noise at night from bed, we would fire up any apple device to see outside.
Plus 5 Clipsal sensors to back up lighting to supplement the system at night with lighting that blends into the house style.
No don't live in gated community and actually live in a good area.
The system professionally supplied/installed is not as horrendous in cost as one may think.

But on the road its padlocks always and I won't do jobs that requires me to park the rig away from the job, ie around the street cnr. A fellow mowing man in my town was on a job on a cnr Real Estate Agent job site and had the whole rig which included a Hilux dual cab and trailer stolen from under his nose whilst working the job within the R/Agents own carpark.

Edit; have front dash cam mini 0806

South East Mowing
29-05-2018, 06:40 PM
Anyone use alarms for their tool boxes?

If so what do you use and what are the pros and cons?

Have 2 locks on each tool box but that does not necessarily stop break ins now.

I was putting in wider gates so I could get the new trailer into back yard.
But it looks like we are moving so will need to keep it parked at front for another 3 months.

I will probably put a 3rd lock on each toolbox - and also run a chain through all the gear inside the toolbox which will be locked with good padlocks.

Think I will also leave the front door unlocked - security only locked and move the dogs mat to a corner quite close to the front.

Rouser (the dog) is exceptionally alert and people who walk on the other side of the street get him paying attention.

Bring along a postie, diesel delivery van, loud noisy people, people wearing beanies/hoodies, and very dark colored people and he is full on.

He has already ripped the security mesh off the security door:p, was not the really good stuff but not fly wire also. Yet we have had a few young ladies selling stuff walk straight up to the door and NOTHING!!!

New house will have it parked out rear over a rather high gate/fence as I have done with existing trailer and gear - never had a problem.

RSM-Gazza
29-05-2018, 06:51 PM
John, we also have our Golden Retriever inside as his part of the family.
When we had the boss of the cities biggest security company at my house to quote, he looked and patted our dog inside the house said Quote "Your dog is your best security device"

geoff
29-05-2018, 10:19 PM
Best security that i have is INSURANCE.....

glassngrass
29-05-2018, 10:42 PM
WOOF WOOF GRRRR - best insurance there is

GQdude
30-05-2018, 07:10 AM
My brother has a ute with tool boxes on each side of his tray. He had a car alarm installed and the installer connected a bonnet type switch to each tool box. ie. open the tool box when car is locked and the alarm goes off.

RSM-Gazza
30-05-2018, 09:33 AM
When I lived in Wantirna-Knox City I had an Outboard Motor stolen of my boat. Three yrs later I had the contents of a trailered Cabin Cruiser stripped in a motel stay.
My past 33 Yr career had highly monitored CCTV for crime/theft, staff theft and instore public violence and strict audited Alarm control-alarming 24/7 and rearming offices upon leaving/enter etc. etc. Often the footage was used for apprehension, court, police and union issues and it was myself responsible.

I guess when I retired from my career I missed the cameras and alarm stuff, so my neighbour had contacts and when we had a druggie or drunk trying to enter 7 homes one Monday morning at 4.00am. I had no alarms then and my Golden Rettiver who was inside went total nuts at our front door - woke me and scared me with the nutto aggression of our pet. The neighbour opposite had there two Huskies go spacko too and the house further down was broken into at their front bedroom window whilst asleep. Forensic Police from Wangaratta came up and fingerprinted and photo'd the scene as I saw their arrival and investigation unfold.

If you have been a victim, you never forget it. Yep, need insurance, but you pay the $$$ excess and the next policy renewal skyrockets generally. I've currenty 8 policies with RACV and 2 with Dean, I mow lawns to pay insurance me thinks.
But when you have worked hard all your life to enjoy the fruits of it, one wants to protect it from some scum bag druggie within a diminishing respectful society for other peoples property who don't give a No 2.

Sorry SEM-John, maybe off track a little but we do need to secure and/or insur our gear at work, home and give added safety for our families too. Not everyone can afford to insure everything so it's then a case of prioritising what you insure

South East Mowing
30-05-2018, 10:36 AM
When I lived in Wantirna-Knox City I had an Outboard Motor stolen of my boat. Three yrs later I had the contents of a trailered Cabin Cruiser stripped in a motel stay.
My past 33 Yr career had highly monitored CCTV for crime/theft, staff theft and instore public violence and strict audited Alarm control-alarming 24/7 and rearming offices upon leaving/enter etc. etc. Often the footage was used for apprehension, court, police and union issues and it was myself responsible.

I guess when I retired from my career I missed the cameras and alarm stuff, so my neighbour had contacts and when we had a druggie or drunk trying to enter 7 homes one Monday morning at 4.00am. I had no alarms then and my Golden Rettiver who was inside went total nuts at our front door - woke me and scared me with the nutto aggression of our pet. The neighbour opposite had there two Huskies go spacko too and the house further down was broken into at their front bedroom window whilst asleep. Forensic Police from Wangaratta came up and fingerprinted and photo'd the scene as I saw their arrival and investigation unfold.

If you have been a victim, you never forget it. Yep, need insurance, but you pay the $$$ excess and the next policy renewal skyrockets generally. I've currenty 8 policies with RACV and 2 with Dean, I mow lawns to pay insurance me thinks.
But when you have worked hard all your life to enjoy the fruits of it, one wants to protect it from some scum bag druggie within a diminishing respectful society for other peoples property who don't give a No 2.

Sorry SEM-John, maybe off track a little but we do need to secure and/or insur our gear at work, home and give added safety for our families too. Not everyone can afford to insure everything so it's then a case of prioritising what you insure

Gaz, have never left gear on trailer before except when out on the road and there are often 2 of us working. Everything has been kept on ute chained and locked or in tool boxes on ute locked.
Always parked in garage at home and second car behind locked gate at home.
With the new setup I need to look at options. Securing it multiple ways, possibly insuring it, second dash cam, tool box alarms, securing larger tools with chains/locks inside tool boxes etc
At the new house it will be parked behind high locked gates. If they jump the fence with a few more security devices fitted it will slow them down. That will allow Rouser a little more time to get out the back door and let them know it is probably not a good idea:scared.
They probably won't have time to get over the fence though before they realise but like you I prefer to take every precaution

RSM-Gazza
30-05-2018, 11:21 AM
Don't we miss the days of leaving our bikes/trikes/scooters on the front lawn or nature strip and it was all there in the same spot the next day. Whilst Mum/Dad never stressed or cared that the items that they worked hard and saved for spent the night there either.

Good ol "Rouser" & my dog "Charlie", think I give him a Dentastix right now.
Great to have a day or two off mucking around at home.

ian
30-05-2018, 05:55 PM
I had a client only a few years ago tell me when they sold their house in Lysterfield they had to get a locksmith out to cut keys for the locks as they had never used them and didn't know where the keys were :)

RSM-Gazza
30-05-2018, 07:22 PM
Don't we miss the days of leaving our bikes/trikes/scooters on the front lawn or nature strip and it was all there in the same spot the next day.
There's method in my madness for posting the above quote, I'm prepping myself up for all the stories I'm gona repeat at the Nursing Home. Like the 2 large bottles of draught, brown bagged and left on the street by the garbo bin for the garbo men for xmas that never got stolen before they came. And another to tell, when I used to hijack forum posts going of topic.

South East Mowing
30-05-2018, 08:55 PM
Don't we miss the days of leaving our bikes/trikes/scooters on the front lawn or nature strip and it was all there in the same spot the next day. Whilst Mum/Dad never stressed or cared that the items that they worked hard and saved for spent the night there either.

Good ol "Rouser" & my dog "Charlie", think I give him a Dentastix right now.
Great to have a day or two off mucking around at home.


Need something a bit more substantial than that.

geoff
30-05-2018, 09:49 PM
:thinkingyou blokes can rap about expensive this at that ..insurance isn't that expensive nor the excess ..my excess is 250 and everything is insured for relpacemnet on road or at home....more than likely i will get a portable grinder on the road that cut my padlocks so dash cam won't stop that...as long as there is evidence of a break in the insurance will cover....as with public liability you have to have it if running a business....couple of lawn a month adequately covers the expense ...works for me anyway ....

Macka
30-05-2018, 11:04 PM
:thinkingyou blokes can rap about expensive this at that ..insurance isn't that expensive nor the excess ..my excess is 250 and everything is insured for relpacemnet on road or at home....more than likely i will get a portable grinder on the road that cut my padlocks so dash cam won't stop that...as long as there is evidence of a break in the insurance will cover....as with public liability you have to have it if running a business....couple of lawn a month adequately covers the expense ...works for me anyway ....

I have un-secured insurance so it I dont even have to lock it up, gear can be sitting on the trailer on the street, it cost $10 a month extra

RSM-Gazza
30-05-2018, 11:07 PM
Geoff,

I didn't think anyone including myself was attacking for being insured or not insured :confused:

I've 10 policies in total annually and 2 of those are expensive due to living in a high fire risk area and insured to the max in $ value for complete demolition and replacement. Collectively for me it's expensive but a must.

Chris B
31-05-2018, 07:42 PM
I have un-secured insurance so it I dont even have to lock it up, gear can be sitting on the trailer on the street, it cost $10 a month extra

Sounds good
Who's that with?
What's the excess and have you ever had to claim?

Chris B
31-05-2018, 07:44 PM
Anyone have locks that open with the vehicle remote locking?

South East Mowing
31-05-2018, 09:14 PM
Better make sure insurance companies are part of my superannuation investment plan!!!:whipi




Geoff,

I didn't think anyone including myself was attacking for being insured or not insured :confused:

I've 10 policies in total annually and 2 of those are expensive due to living in a high fire risk area and insured to the max in $ value for complete demolition and replacement. Collectively for me it's expensive but a must.

Macka
31-05-2018, 09:20 PM
Sounds good
Who's that with?
What's the excess and have you ever had to claim?

Thats with AAMI, exccess is $250, Havent had a business claim but a couple of domestic claims, AAMI are a big players they seem to pay out no problems, a couple of vehicle claim with no issues through them.

geoff
31-05-2018, 10:13 PM
:knob sorry John thought you had retired lol
Better make sure insurance companies are part of my superannuation investment plan!!!:whipi

RSM-Gazza
01-06-2018, 08:23 AM
Cheers :) .,..,.,..,.,.

South East Mowing
01-06-2018, 02:22 PM
:knob sorry John thought you had retired lol

I understand mate!! You are a St Kilda supporter:scared

Chris B
05-06-2018, 09:07 PM
Thats with AAMI, exccess is $250, Havent had a business claim but a couple of domestic claims, AAMI are a big players they seem to pay out no problems, a couple of vehicle claim with no issues through them.

Thanks.... had a look... only catch is there's a 2k limit with those types of claims... good if someone pinched new mower but maybe not worthwhile for just a blower lol

Chris B
05-06-2018, 09:14 PM
If anyone is with RACV ... they now give online quotes (previously only over phone)
while shopping around I noticed my premium was 150-200 more than quoted online... called up and got pro rata refund for remainder of my policy.

Also there is a clause in their 'tools cover' that excludes any self propelled implement... so technically that includes mowers...

Macka
05-06-2018, 10:22 PM
Thanks.... had a look... only catch is there's a 2k limit with those types of claims... good if someone pinched new mower but maybe not worthwhile for just a blower lol

Dont know what your talking about, my blow is $ 1,000
Unspecified Items (up to $2,500 any one item)
Ride on's are specified and agreed value as Vehicle's

Chris B
05-06-2018, 10:58 PM
2k limit per claim where no forced entry shown ...

My point being after excess and premiums claiming for a handheld blower not worthwhile.

Also (cut n paste) :
Theft of Portable and Valuable Items without forced entry
This optional insurance provides you with up to $2,000 of cover for theft of portable items:
During loading or unloading of property insured
Theft of unsecured portable items within the perimeter fencing at a worksite
Theft of portable items from a vehicle when the worksite regulations prevent you from locking the vehicle

.....

So you're not actually covered if you deliberately leave unlocked while working if parked on street

Chris B
06-06-2018, 02:51 PM
If anyone is with RACV ... they now give online quotes (previously only over phone)
while shopping around I noticed my premium was 150-200 more than quoted online... called up and got pro rata refund for remainder of my policy.

Also there is a clause in their 'tools cover' that excludes any self propelled implement... so technically that includes mowers...

Spoke with RACV today to clarify the above... new policies don't have that exclusion.... If your policy number begins with 'ET' then you may want to check out the new cover... I've found it much more comprehensive for me and will get much more value out of it

Hopefully this helps anyone else with RACV

glassngrass
07-06-2018, 09:14 PM
I have un-secured insurance so it I dont even have to lock it up, gear can be sitting on the trailer on the street, it cost $10 a month extra

until your first claim, then the premium skyrockets