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ian
08-12-2009, 11:25 AM
warning i just received a letter from INDUSTRY AND COMMERCE 2009 REGISTER OF BUSINESS INFORMATION ]asking me to fill out the form and update my information then sign and return READ THE SMALL PRINT where it says the cost per edition is AUD 1600 that is $1600 i personally am going to throw it out

ian
08-12-2009, 11:49 AM
i just reread the form and it is a contract authorizing another 2 years so that means $4800

administrator
08-12-2009, 12:43 PM
Yes this letter has been around since 2008 good pick up IAN

On the government scam watch website .

http://www.scamwatch.gov.au/content/item.phtml?itemId=733959&nodeId=2073710828d35da8a3c189ea0063d17f&fn=Industry%20and%20commerce%20register%20of%20bus iness%20information%20scam%20example.pdf

Glenofcarwoola
08-12-2009, 07:42 PM
Thanks Ian :)
I received a phone call this afternoon from some guy from dLook telling me that they are the second biggest internet business directory after the yellow pages and that I should be listing with them for $250 odd dollars. I kept him on the phone for about 15 mins (he called my mobile) while I had a beer and a smoke.

When I looked them up they have heaps of hair dressers and beauty salons listed but I have never heard of them before, has any body?

administrator
08-12-2009, 07:59 PM
i wonder if the government is on the scam list

Bluey
08-12-2009, 08:36 PM
If they cold call you then you can be they are scammers. DLook is just another of the millions of online business directories out there. They make their money out of charging you for membership then selling advertising on their site to companies based on thier member base. If you want to list on directories do it on the free ones. One of the best i have found is Aussie Web. I get quite a few hits each month on my website from their site

redbackmowing
08-12-2009, 08:49 PM
Thanks Ian :)
I received a phone call this afternoon from some guy from dLook telling me that they are the second biggest internet business directory after the yellow pages and that I should be listing with them for $250 odd dollars. I kept him on the phone for about 15 mins (he called my mobile) while I had a beer and a smoke.

When I looked them up they have heaps of hair dressers and beauty salons listed but I have never heard of them before, has any body?

hi glen,
put your number in the do not call register. saves a lot of unwanted phone calls. link here:
do not call register (https://www.donotcall.gov.au/)

Bluey
08-12-2009, 09:04 PM
hi glen,
put your number in the do not call register. saves a lot of unwanted phone calls. link here:
do not call register (https://www.donotcall.gov.au/)


Doesn't stop the Paki Tele Terrorists

Glenofcarwoola
08-12-2009, 09:30 PM
Wasn't too fussed by the phone call as I found it amusing while having a beer, but this guy was persistent until I got sick of him and ended the conversation. I've' listed in half a dozen FREE internet directory's but haven't tried Aussie Web, thanks for the tip Bluey I'll check them out. Seems that there are just too many internet directory's around for any of them to have a great impact alone (except maybe Google ).

Got my first lead from a Canberra organic society teacher today (it was the student that called me for mulching) so the el cheapo advertising is starting to work. I falsely assumed that I could scale back advertising when things started to pick up but quickly found that my advertising efforts have to be ongoing to grow the business.

redbackmowing
08-12-2009, 09:45 PM
Doesn't stop the Paki Tele Terrorists

the only calls i've received in about 6 months are from my bank, some charities (which i think are exempt) & 1 insulation company. none from phone/internet companies. so it's working for me. i'm sure it only for 2 years then you have to re-register??

Bgs
08-12-2009, 10:01 PM
Thanks Ian :)
I received a phone call this afternoon from some guy from dLook telling me that they are the second biggest internet business directory after the yellow pages and that I should be listing with them for $250 odd dollars. I kept him on the phone for about 15 mins (he called my mobile) while I had a beer and a smoke.

When I looked them up they have heaps of hair dressers and beauty salons listed but I have never heard of them before, has any body?

Did you register with true local recently?

When I listed with them the next day I got calls from yellow pages, yodel, dlook aswell and another directory I cant remember the name of all in the one day It was like all these companies looked for new listings on true local then pounced

Cranbourne Lawnmowing
08-12-2009, 10:31 PM
Did you register with true local recently?

When I listed with them the next day I got calls from yellow pages, yodel, dlook aswell and another directory I cant remember the name of all in the one day It was like all these companies looked for new listings on true local then pounced

I know what you mean when I first registered with them I got bombarded with calls from every directory you could think of telling me their the number 1 or 2 Internet directory to be with. It stopped after a while. Although saying that, I got a call from a bloke supposedly from google today telling me that they could get me on the first page. I told him I'm on the first page of all the area's I work so he types in lawnmowing and says your not there. I said try the area's that I work and hung up. Morons

Andy B
09-12-2009, 08:51 AM
This probably should be in "Marketing tips", but when I started a few months ago, I used to google the suburbs I worked and lawn mowing and joined every website my competitors were on. (All the free ones anyway). It got me higher up than most of them because my name starts with A.

Problem now is getting all the freebies to accept my change of address. :sad:

Glenofcarwoola
09-12-2009, 08:54 PM
Did you register with true local recently?

When I listed with them the next day I got calls from yellow pages, yodel, dlook aswell and another directory I cant remember the name of all in the one day It was like all these companies looked for new listings on true local then pounced

Think I did. I've registered with a few free ones and 1 very local paid site but there's no way I'm forking over money for any directory sites because I just can't see the value.

Bugga
19-12-2010, 06:09 AM
Had a call from someone wanting me to place an ad in the Policemans journal, after all the chat he said a lady would ring to get my details to place the ad for next years journal.

After reading some posts a few alarm bells strated to ring.

When the lady rang I asked if I could be sent a copy of the journal prior to paying for the advertising, she said they would do that, but to date I have not heard from them.

It would seem people are still out there doing the rounds.

Just a quick note for all newbies like me, keep your guards up.

Tender Lovin Lawn&Garden
19-12-2010, 06:33 AM
Had a call from someone wanting me to place an ad in the Policemans journal, after all the chat he said a lady would ring to get my details to place the ad for next years journal.

After reading some posts a few alarm bells strated to ring.

When the lady rang I asked if I could be sent a copy of the journal prior to paying for the advertising, she said they would do that, but to date I have not heard from them.

It would seem people are still out there doing the rounds.

Just a quick note for all newbies like me, keep your guards up.

There a scam they got me and i showed a copy to a police officer i knew and he told me he had never seen one before and he had been in the service for seven years. They also ring about a diary another scam and the there is the volunter mag and the ambo mag there all scams just say to them no thanks and hang up.

Bgs
19-12-2010, 08:56 AM
We got a call from the "Police Journal" about two weeks ago , My wife answered the phone and the guy said G'day love is the boss there :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Needless to say my wife sent him packing. Told her they were scammers made her even angrier :laughing:

glassngrass
19-12-2010, 12:28 PM
While a good many cold canvas advertising contacts may well be scammers, there is a legitimate "Police Down Under" magazine.
I advertised in it once and picked up some work fo a local copper, also a couple handyman jobs for local 'nic'.
I have seen their publication.

As far as value for money - there is little value in advertising in a magazine seen only a very small segment of the community - and no value in your details being shown out of town!

Some of these advertisers will try and work around you - "I spoke with [your wife] who approved advertising in our publication. I am calling back to get your credit card details."

Have a policy - only ONE contact point in your business for any and all advertising.

Go a step further - request a sample of their publication sent to you. If they are legit they should be willing to show you their past work

Stripes
24-01-2011, 10:29 AM
I just had a call about advertising in a federal police magazine to help raise funds for 'their next project'. It sounded very dodgy so I brushed him.

Andy B
24-01-2011, 11:32 AM
I had a very convincing email from ANZ.com... bloody shonky, looked really legit and I was just about to click on the supplied link until I remembered the real bank is anz.com.au not just .com

ian
24-09-2012, 07:07 PM
Just received this Email from a friend this happened to her so as she says beware
To family and friends

If you have a Commonwealth Bank account at Mount Waverley

BEWARE.
Today I received a telephone call from the Commonwealth Bank
“Saying that I had $2000-$3000.00 owing to my and Peter’s credit cards
Due to been over charged on bank fees!!
I was given a password and that tomorrow I would
Receive a phone call from Fair Trading and I had to give them my password.
These people were very cleaver as they know my whole credit card number,
Expiry date and my date of birth and address
Then they asked me for the last three numbers on the back of my card.
That’s when I thought this is not right .
Never give those numbers to anyone over the phone.
I them visited the bank manager Jason Smith from Mount Waverley as soon as I got off the phone.
He said I was the 10th costumer to come forward since Friday.
He thinks that there must be a skimming device in the area.
Beware when using ATMs.
I have also spoken to Consumer Affairs Victoria and reported this scam, they knew nothing about this scam.
I then called NSW Fair trading and they knew every detail about the scam and or going to do a Media Alert
That’s no good for us in Victoria!!!
Also I rang ACC and they have a web site called Scam watch www.scamwatch.gov.au
Which they also knew about this scam.
So please be a where of this scam and just hung up on these people.
It was very scary that this person on the other end of the phone knew so many of my personal details.
Just Beware


Remember the Bank doesn't need to ask for these numbers they will already have them

Blaktop
24-09-2012, 11:59 PM
I got the Indian guy (whose name was John....lol) ringing me from "Windows Service Centre" telling me they had detected problems with my computer. I told him I don't have a computer.....he hung up.....rude bastich. I've had them a few times.....one guy I had on the phone for about 20 minutes.....I couldn't find that Start button he was telling me to push.....in the end he got sick of trying to scam someone who couldn't even find the start button......he hung up too.....rude bastich.

We get 2-3 a week at the cafe trying to sell us a better phone deal that would "halve our $190 bill from last month" (the bill was actually $54).....these days we just tell them the owner is away on holidays and we aren't authorised to do anything. Unfortunately, last time I checked you can't put a business phone on the Do Not all register.

South East Mowing
22-09-2016, 08:41 PM
I just had a call about advertising in a federal police magazine to help raise funds for 'their next project'. It sounded very dodgy so I brushed him.

In the last 2 weeks or so I have been called about half a dozen times from the police magazine/journal!! Must be making money from someone. Dont know how many mobile phones this guy has but has been a different number most times.

Buyer Beware!!!!!

BSD
22-09-2016, 09:15 PM
I have fun with this stuff, I have time on my hands and work these buggers with bs.

glassngrass
24-09-2016, 05:25 PM
Police magazine/journal - is NOT in itself a scam. While there 'may' be scammers saying they represent this publication, it is a legitimate publication.
I used them maybe 10 years ago and made sure I obtained a copy of the issue my ad was published in, It is real...

However, consider your market. Not all police receive and/or read this. And the number of those that would see your add nation-wide are tiny compared to your local market.
As a local I don't think there is ROI in advertising with them unless you are state/nationwide - but some might do so anyway in support of law enforcement personnel.
In Victoria, the Blue Ribbon Foundation also holds Blue Ribbon Day on 29 September to coincide with National Police Remembrance Day, commemorating officers who have lost their lives in service.

As a general rule - I never accept unsolicited sales calls... no exceptions. Invite them to write you. A scammer wants easy money from a call and is less likely to write.

Bluey
24-09-2016, 08:30 PM
Police magazine/journal - is NOT in itself a scam. While there 'may' be scammers saying they represent this publication, it is a legitimate publication.
I used them maybe 10 years ago and made sure I obtained a copy of the issue my ad was published in, It is real...

However, consider your market. Not all police receive and/or read this. And the number of those that would see your add nation-wide are tiny compared to your local market.
As a local I don't think there is ROI in advertising with them unless you are state/nationwide - but some might do so anyway in support of law enforcement personnel.
In Victoria, the Blue Ribbon Foundation also holds Blue Ribbon Day on 29 September to coincide with National Police Remembrance Day, commemorating officers who have lost their lives in service.

As a general rule - I never accept unsolicited sales calls... no exceptions. Invite them to write you. A scammer wants easy money from a call and is less likely to write.

That is of course if it is the real one and it never is. Mate your rule is correct. Send m an email with the details. Never happens

South East Mowing
25-09-2016, 09:56 AM
Police magazine/journal - is NOT in itself a scam. While there 'may' be scammers saying they represent this publication, it is a legitimate publication.
I used them maybe 10 years ago and made sure I obtained a copy of the issue my ad was published in, It is real...

However, consider your market. Not all police receive and/or read this. And the number of those that would see your add nation-wide are tiny compared to your local market.
As a local I don't think there is ROI in advertising with them unless you are state/nationwide - but some might do so anyway in support of law enforcement personnel.
In Victoria, the Blue Ribbon Foundation also holds Blue Ribbon Day on 29 September to coincide with National Police Remembrance Day, commemorating officers who have lost their lives in service.

As a general rule - I never accept unsolicited sales calls... no exceptions. Invite them to write you. A scammer wants easy money from a call and is less likely to write.

I agree and never said it was a scam. Just said I thought someone was making heaps of cash. Also said he calls from many mobile numbers which is also a "red flag"
Even if it the real one as you mentioned you need to get ROI. New people may often think it is a good idea and when it is paid it goes in the next years edition in their off season

djkgrounds
25-09-2016, 07:56 PM
New people may often think it is a good idea and when it is paid it goes in the next years edition in their off season

When I first started I got scammed into doing the Police Dog Annual Police Magazine where i was guaranteed work from it as it went out to about 300 serving and ex serving police officers within my region. I didn't get one call or one job from it. Waste of $600 in the end ( I got a copy of the magazine sent to me with my ad in it, which looked good I must say. It also had another local from my region advertising in it as well, which I was told would not happen.

I still get calls from them asking to me to advertise. Now I state to them, unless they have an office within my region that I can sit down in and go over all the fine print in detail with them, and for them to show me all the stats and figures showing that I would get the "guaranteed work" and they can put it in writing and sign it infront of my solicitor, I am not interested. Usually they hang up on me at that point. Lesson learnt I suppose. that was a fair few years back now.

Redeye
25-09-2016, 08:47 PM
if not a scam, it's walking a fine line...

BSD
25-09-2016, 09:04 PM
I'm amazed some of the folk here actually buy/respond to any telemarketer call, since 1991 these scams and warnings have been going on for ages. Like really guys and gals, anyone want some shares in the Sydney harbour bridge????

Redeye
26-09-2016, 08:12 AM
swap you some shares for my striped paint patent

BSD
26-09-2016, 10:50 AM
Your on!! No GST!

steveo
26-09-2016, 06:56 PM
The world is full of scammers and the world is full of suckers. If there were no suckers there be no scammers. If there were no scammers there be no suckers.

The smarter the suckers get, the smarter the scammers get.

The funny thing is, if you had no email and no internet and only posted letters and didn't use a credit card you are the most likely not to be scammed. Go figure.

mgammon
06-10-2016, 08:52 PM
I have a rule, I never ever buy anything from people who phone me, some of these people may be legitimate but I'm sorry the doggy people have spoiled it for everyone. If by chance any of these were real you will never ever get enough work out of it to cover your costs.

The Tax Office (supposedly) have been going to take me to court for the last 4 months.

And really Microsoft never phone anyone, they just release their updates and your computer installs them automatically.

And the bloke that is in hospital who keeps sending me an email asking if I can give him a quote to mow the lawn on a house he is about to move into, oh and could I pay the removalist for him, well I haven't worked out how I'm going to stitch him up.

South East Mowing
25-09-2017, 05:38 PM
Total Interactive 07 3287 5250
Had a message left asking me to ring back about the 'Woodleigh Waters Medical Center" in Berwick.
Rang back and left a message.
Later in the day Rod rang me back again. The arrogant **** . Just trying to sell advertising space - very polite until you tell him you are not interested!:FU

Scooby Steve
25-09-2017, 07:32 PM
Total Interactive 07 3287 5250
Had a message left asking me to ring back about the 'Woodleigh Waters Medical Center" in Berwick.
Rang back and left a message.
Later in the day Rod rang me back again. The arrogant **** . Just trying to sell advertising space - very polite until you tell him you are not interested!:FU

Interstate number should sound warning bells.