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    Default Re: Rover Pro Cut 560 Mulch 'N Catch self propelled

    My mower shop says 910 a 5.5 hp
    The 910 on ebay says it's a 5.5 hp

    Then you have a choice in buying engine only 196 cc 6.5 hp on ebay for under $200 which comes with throttle control.

    I was only asking if anyone has purchased this 6.5hp engine,which looks the same factory rover engine




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    Default Re: Rover Pro Cut 560 Mulch 'N Catch self propelled

    I think the 6.5hp claim on that black engine might be a bit dodgy.

    Seems most manufacturers of these small engines quote Torque values rather than HP.

    Rover 910- 196cc- 9.1 ft lbs torque
    Black Engine- 196cc - 7.7 ft lbs torque
    B&S 850 i/c - 190cc - 8.5ft lbs torque

    even the Kohler xt775 @ 173cc has similar torque figures to the black engine (7.75ft lbs)

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    Quote Originally Posted by edbeek View Post
    I think the 6.5hp claim on that black engine might be a bit dodgy.

    Seems most manufacturers of these small engines quote Torque values rather than HP.

    Rover 910- 196cc- 9.1 ft lbs torque
    Black Engine- 196cc - 7.7 ft lbs torque
    B&S 850 i/c - 190cc - 8.5ft lbs torque

    even the Kohler xt775 @ 173cc has similar torque figures to the black engine (7.75ft lbs)
    Rover 910- 196cc- 9.1 ft lbs torque..............RPM
    Black Engine- 196cc - 7.7 ft lbs torque..........RPM
    B&S 850 i/c - 190cc - 8.5ft lbs torque...........RPM

    even the Kohler xt775 @ 173cc has similar torque figures to the black engine (7.75ft lbs)......RPM

    What RPM are they running at

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    Default Re: Rover Pro Cut 560 Mulch 'N Catch self propelled

    Quote Originally Posted by BeetleJuice View Post
    Rover 910- 196cc- 9.1 ft lbs torque..............RPM
    Black Engine- 196cc - 7.7 ft lbs torque..........RPM
    B&S 850 i/c - 190cc - 8.5ft lbs torque...........RPM

    even the Kohler xt775 @ 173cc has similar torque figures to the black engine (7.75ft lbs)......RPM

    What RPM are they running at
    According to their specs, they develop max gross torque @
    B&S - 3060 RPM
    Kohler- 2820 RPM
    Black Engine- 2500 RPM
    Can't find the full Rover specs

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    Everything looks good with a haircut.... ɐuıɥɔ ɯoɹɟ pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐl ǝɥʇ sʇɐɥʇ

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    The local dealer removes the motor and fits other brands in place.The seller told me his first lot sold was 45 engines.Some more have come thru to be on ebay again.I got mine in that last batch

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    Hi troppo
    This chute looks really good.
    Please post how to for the challenged like me. I am having trouble working out how you make this.
    Thanks
    hjl

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    Quote Originally Posted by hjl View Post
    Hi troppo
    This chute looks really good.
    Please post how to for the challenged like me. I am having trouble working out how you make this.
    Thanks
    hjl
    Now you're starting to sound like my wife!!!!!!! Not sure what are you are referring to as "this chute". I presume you mean the one I made myself?

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    Hi troppo
    Yes I was referring to the chute you made yourself. Tried to post under that post but it came here. I am still having trouble working out how you made it. Do you measure your catcher to get the curved bit? How do you make the bends? A bit of board and a vise? The back piece is it the same height as the outlet flap at the back of your mower?
    As you can see I need all the help I can get.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjl View Post
    Hi troppo
    Yes I was referring to the chute you made yourself. Tried to post under that post but it came here. I am still having trouble working out how you made it. Do you measure your catcher to get the curved bit? How do you make the bends? A bit of board and a vise? The back piece is it the same height as the outlet flap at the back of your mower?
    As you can see I need all the help I can get.

    Cheers
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    Just woke up and couldn't get back to sleep!!!!!! Aluminium sheet off cut from local alloy welding specialist. Yes, copied the catcher lip. Made bends by clamping to the work bench edge with a piece of timber and two g-clamps. The two pieces are joined with a piece of angle and bolts/nyloc nuts. As far as design goes, just made it up as I went to what I thought would work re angles. To hold it in place the front fits snug into the chute opening, the top fits into the flap, and I have a piece if wire at the back LHS that hooks over the handle. If I ever made another one, I would take more time to make it fit better and change the angles a bit so the bottom is not parallel to the ground, but rises up at an angle. This is so I can lift the front wheels more without it dragging on the ground. Hope that helps.

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    Default Re: Rover Pro Cut 560 Mulch 'N Catch self propelled

    Hi troppo
    Thanks very much for your reply. That does help. Might even be able to make one myself now.
    Cheers
    hjl

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    anyone wanting to replace the air filter in the snorkel/handle, I just found them at Supercheap Auto for $3. My mower shop charges $10 for the same.
    Also noticed that if you mow in the rain, I know, not ideal but if you get caught out, the filter gets wet and the spring in the housing squashes the filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arfa Brayne View Post
    If you want to lower the blades, the easiest and most secure way is to spin up a collar on the lathe to go around the shaft between the top end of the blade boss and the ridge of the crankshaft/output shaft.
    Make the collar as thick as the amount of drop you need. Make sure you use a longer High tensile bolt to allow for the extra distance it has to go in before it threads.
    Don't bugger around with bits of washers and wrong size/strength bolts or you're setting yourself up for a catastrophy.

    I've had a disc assembly come off a brand new stock standard HRU in it's first 2 minutes of running - simply because the choke stuck and the engine was coughing/jerking enough to break the 3x little disc lugs. When the lugs broke, the bolt spun tight until it snapped, and the spinning disc and blades came out from underneath like a feral cat in a blender and sparked all the way across the road before it stopped.

    Took me 5 minutes to pull my legs back out of my arse.
    Would it be safe to remove the plastic spacer between the engine and the deck to lower the cutting height?

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    The Chinese motor on the 560 karked it a couple of weeks back. Probably repairable but didn't need to even look because I picked up a brand new motor from a mower shop in SE Queensland for 80 bucks - seems the local contractor (contractors) don't like the Chinee, think the Briggs is better so pay to have a Briggs fitted and leave the other behind.Why? I have two 560's, one Chinese 196 and the other Briggs. The Chinese runs rings around the Brigs for power and costs $80 to replace motor, the rest of mower is still good as after 3 years of constant use and earning so new motor equals hopefully another 3 tears. Nothing wrong with the Briggs but why go to the expense these guys have gone to for what gain. Also have a Hustler Zero with a 42" deck and Kawasaki 17 hp motor. Motor is being a bit lazy lately so thinking of an engine replace - shame the Chinese don't make something like a 23-25 hp motor for small dollars cause I woiuld be more than willing to give it a go if someone else didn't want it Rant ends - see ya..

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    10 sec's of googling found this mate, no idea if they're any good.......http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/25HP-Engi...-/300982678668




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