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    Default Re: Honda 216 idling like it's running out of fuel

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenie View Post
    HPM How do u know that u need to cHeck or re set them??
    Hard to pull start. Decompression not working efficiently.
    Noisy tapping sound.louder than normal.
    Decreased compression.
    Recommended to be done once every year.
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    Default Re: Honda 216 idling like it's running out of fuel

    Intake 0.15 +/- 0.02mm ( 0.006 +/- 0.001in )

    Exhaust 0.20 +/- 0.02 mm ( 0.008 +/- 0.001in )

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    Default Re: Honda 216 idling like it's running out of fuel

    How do you find tdc on a honda with blade brake ..i`am guessing have to take the pull start housing off and turn the engine from there and not the blade..
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    Default Re: Honda 216 idling like it's running out of fuel

    Should have watched the honda vid before last post found the answer
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    Default Re: Honda 216 idling like it's running out of fuel

    the second vid is the way to go. just use the valve clearances paul posted up. supposed to do it on a cold engine also.
    id suggest clean the front of the mower before you remove the valve cover so dust doesn't go inside and be prepared for some oil to come out.
    also after you adjust maybe turn the engine over a couple of times then retest the gap as the adjustments are really sensitive.
    but its super easy and best thing is how easy it is to pull cord to start once done.
    i didn't bother changing gaskets or anything like that either

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    Default Re: Honda 216 idling like it's running out of fuel

    can`t see no reason for new rocker cover gasket as long as the surfaces are very clean and the bolts aren`t too tight as to squash the gasket..great info fellas
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    Default Re: Honda 216 idling like it's running out of fuel

    just wondering how did u go.?? get it all fixed.?

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    Default Re: Honda 216 idling like it's running out of fuel

    Didn't pull the carby apart again as I had planned.

    All I've done since then was check the valve clearance, which seemed fine, changed the oil & filter and fitted a new exhaust manifold gasket.

    The mower has been idling fine for quite a while now. It seems to almost backfire or crackle a lot when I slow the revs from full to idle but I think it has always done this.

    In the last week though it has become hard to start - takes quite a few hefty pulls to get it going so that's the next thing I have to sort now!

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    Default Re: Honda 216 idling like it's running out of fuel

    the symptoms you mention are what can happen if valves are out of adjustment
    does it backfire from exhaust?
    also when you say hefty pulls .. is the actual starter rope physically harder to pull than usual?
    if the cord is harder to pull usually the valves are out of adjustment. when turning over slowly, the exhaust valve opens to let pressure out of cylinder to make easier to turn over when starting
    did you move nuts on valves at all?

    heres a pic from the US Honda siteCapture.JPG

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    Default Re: Honda 216 idling like it's running out of fuel

    sounds like another reason not to buy a honda




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    Default Re: Honda 216 idling like it's running out of fuel

    Quote Originally Posted by Redeye View Post
    sounds like another reason not to buy a honda
    crikey red, you a rover rep or what, lol ?

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    Default Re: Honda 216 idling like it's running out of fuel

    Chris I didn't reset anything with the valve clearances. Slid the feeler-gauge in to check and the clearances were right on the Honda specs. I wondered about adjusting them because the specs the guy in one of the vids gave were different. All last week when I used it I kept thinking valve clearance but kept assuring myself it wasn't as I hadn't changed anything.

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    Default Re: Honda 216 idling like it's running out of fuel

    not a real fan of any mowers any more, they all seem to be getting cheap & nastier, but I do have issues with Honda gear of the last 5-10 years or so (in case you hadn't noticed lol)




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    Default Re: Honda 216 idling like it's running out of fuel

    well if the piston was in the right position when you measured the valves then i guess its not them.
    according to google other symptoms could be air fuel ratio off causing backfires or timing off from flywheel maybe

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    Default Re: Honda 216 idling like it's running out of fuel

    def hard to buy a true commercial 21" mower... even honda's true commercial with hydro drive still has the crappy levers etc.. although a step in the right direction for 2.5k cant see the value

    i know redeye wont agree but i wish stihl made a mower.. maybe a 4mix even .. would be good i rkn.. they seem to get max power out of their engines ... maybe a bigger version of the backpack blower hehe (yes its easy to start )


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