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    Yep thats prety much it
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    The 18% price hike on electricity here in NSW (combined carbon tax and other permitted increases) is a worry. Even with the compensation [cough], it's still going to hurt.

    The idea of a 'clean energy future' is very appealing. It's shame that what they have done is nothing more than a money-go-round which won't actually do anything other than make a profit for someone else (i.e. not for individuals and the ordinary man). Does someone have someone by the short'n'curlies in a really horrible way that this kind of foolishness could be forced through? Or is it some form of misinformed idealism on the part of a minor political party lacking in sound and balanced financial and economic sense?

    If the investment had been made to encourage creation and commercialisation of new energy sources, rather than wasting $70M on advertising this tax and doubtless millions (potentially biliions more), more opportunities for greater revenue and profit for the nation through employment and direct sales and royalties for 'renting' the technology to others, as well as a locally improved environment, would have been the result. That would aid Australia and the rest of the world. Yes, more difficult, but things that work are usually harder to do than those which don't or are half-4r53d at best.

    Gillard could have made herself into a real hero as the first female PM. Instead, she has made Thatcher and the 'orrid mess she made appear to be palatable.

    Oh well. Stuff happens and we have to just get on with our lives. My $0.02 + GST + Carbon Tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GardenGuy View Post

    Oh well. Stuff happens and we have to just get on with our lives. My $0.02 + GST + Carbon Tax.

    Cheers - GardenGuy.
    Agree, the new tax is here and now and there is nothing that we as small business owners can do about it until the next election. Understand and manage the impact and "if" possible turn it into an advantage for you.

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    I think when parliment comes back after the break that Gillard will get a chalenge from with in labor after the latest QLD poll not one labor seat would be won.
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    The Gold Coast City Council has dropped it's mixed waste fees as of July 1 down to $93/tonne from $116.60/tonne.

    Green waste has gone up to $41/tonne from $40.10.

    Very strange or maybe they are just being cautious and waiting to see the full effect of the CT.

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    I heard the mayor of the GC on the radio last week saying they WILL NOT charge anything for the Carbon tax, and will not pay anything to the government without a legal fight.

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    Brisbane tip fees gone from $16.90 for 500kg up to $31.20 over 100kg. Guess what my clients are going to get from me ASAP. Price rise!!!!!!!!!
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    Sorry, double post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GardenGuy View Post

    The idea of a 'clean energy future' is very appealing. It's shame that what they have done is nothing more than a money-go-round which won't actually do anything other than make a profit for someone else (i.e. not for individuals and the ordinary man). Does someone have someone by the short'n'curlies in a really horrible way that this kind of foolishness could be forced through? Or is it some form of misinformed idealism on the part of a minor political party lacking in sound and balanced financial and economic sense?
    My guess is the U.N is pulling the strings and dictating our future as our "current" government have given them permission to do so.

    Our Government doesn't have a clue what is happening there just obeying orders from up above (I won't go into details here).... oh, and convieniently, they provide countries with billion of $$$$ to "help" get into debt in the first place.

    Carbon tax billions to help poor nations

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/ful...-poor-nations/

    Scary stuff

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    Some more great "unbiased " info from SBS (world news Australia)

    Check out how much other countries are paying per tonne of CO2...

    Factbox: Carbon taxes around the world

    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1...ound-the-world


    A New world government is just around the corner

    I wonder who they will be giving the 100 billion dollars to each year?

    Maybe every country will become "third world" and need to "borrow" the donated money back from U.N at an attractive interest rate of 5%

    Oh, they must be laughing at the incompetence of our country "leaders"...

    and i'll say it again, scary stuff!

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    Some more great "unbiased " info from SBS (world news Australia)

    Check out how much other countries are paying per tonne of CO2...

    Factbox: Carbon taxes around the world

    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1...ound-the-world


    A New world government is just around the corner

    I wonder who they will be giving the 100 billion dollars to each year?

    Maybe every country will become "third world" and need to "borrow" the donated money back from U.N at an attractive interest rate of 5%

    Oh, they must be laughing at the incompetence of our country "leaders"...

    and i'll say it again, scary stuff!

    Simmo.

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    Since ecologists and economists seem to think it's a good thing I'll just go with that for the time being. There is so much misinformation being peddled about the carbon tax that very few people understand how/if it will work. Abbott has done a good job of putting the fear of "the sky is falling" into everyone. Regular price rises are normal......every price rise for the next couple of years will be blamed on the carbon tax whether it's correct or not.

    I'm like everyone else, I don't really understand how it's going to work.....but.....if it ends up reducing the amount of pollution we pump out and ends up with us using more green energy then it can only be a good thing. Whether it has an effect on "climate change"......well my jury is definitely still out on that. In the mean time, the sky is at the same height as it was last week, petrol is cheaper than last week, Whyalla is still there and the economy hasn't collapsed.......and I have some lawns to mow.....

    I seem to remember similar dire predictions of impending doom when the GST was introduced......most of which didn't happen. Remember the prediction that the GST would just go up and up and up and ruin us all? So far it hasn't. I'm not saying the GST is a good thing.....from a small business owner's PoV, being a "tax collector" for the government doesn't really turn me on but the world didn't end when the GST came in.....and it will be the same with the CT.

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    Oh.....electricity prices have risen in NSW something like 70% in the last 3 years......the carbon tax had nothing to do with that. It wasn't even the cost of generating the electricity that went up, it was the cost delivering it to your house and the fact that peak demand has multiplied....mainly due, I understand, to something like a 300% increase in the installation of reverse cycle A/C units in the last 5-6 years.

    If the CT results in less pollution then it's a good thing. People don't volunteer to reduce their pollution, especially if it costs them......but if it is cheaper to reduce pollution than keep polluting then they will. I remember when emmision laws all but killed off the muscle car era in the early 70s.......now look at the performance car scene, more power for less pollution. I think ultimately it will be the same with the CT.

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    It wont do anything to stop carbon emitions because its just a tax with no incentive for companies to change their ways they will just pass it on to us and the government will pick it up at the end.. The only reason its in is because Julia had the option of not doing it and not becoming priminister or teaming up with the greens and becoming priminister,, remember she said there would be no carbon tax under her government. It would be good to have a clean envirement but we all should be angry at our embarassing government for taking us as stupid sheep
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    I tend to disagree with that premise AJ, the Libs campaigned a price on carbon when they were in power, Labor tried for an ETS when Rudd was the boss (which was essentially defeated by the Greens.....go figure)......some form of carbon pricing has been on the agenda of both parties for some time.

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