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    Hi Guys,

    Looking for a liquid chemical for residual control of weeds in paths & driveways.

    Been using SIMZINE and I've had enough of using granulated chemicals.

    Cheers

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    Default Re: Residual Path Weeder

    Quote Originally Posted by GardeningSolutions View Post
    Hi Guys,

    Looking for a liquid chemical for residual control of weeds in paths & driveways.

    Been using SIMZINE and I've had enough of using granulated chemicals.

    Cheers
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    Default Re: Residual Path Weeder

    [QUOTE=GardeningSolutions;144487]Hi Guys,

    Looking for a liquid chemical for residual control of weeds in paths & driveways.

    Been using SIMZINE and I've had enough of using granulated chemicals

    Cheers

    1414141414141414

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    Default Re: Residual Path Weeder

    Simizine is a liquid chemical used to control winter grass.

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    Nah, its the main chemical in bantox, a residual path weeder. Been using it for a few years now on driveways etc. Even did a test on a heavily grassed vacant block and it nukes everything. Had very sparse grow back after 10 mths. Problem is it only comes granulated and no matter how well you premix in a bucket it still has residue that blocks the spray jets. That's why I need a liquid alternative.

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    Default Re: Residual Path Weeder

    I've never used it, but sounds like this might be what you are looking for?

    http://www.herbiguide.com.au/Labels/...31855-0201.PDF

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    Default Re: Residual Path Weeder

    Quote Originally Posted by edbeek View Post
    I've never used it, but sounds like this might be what you are looking for?

    http://www.herbiguide.com.au/Labels/...31855-0201.PDF
    We used to use this one in fish tank chemicals to control algae etc. use a mask when using it as it is very potent, used to get major headaches from it all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edbeek View Post
    I've never used it, but sounds like this might be what you are looking for?

    http://www.herbiguide.com.au/Labels/...31855-0201.PDF
    Cheers, I'll look into it. Was at the chemical suppliers today and they reckon there was nothing else available.

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    Just bought a 20 litre bottle of Gesatop 600SC by Syngenta - $220. It's a Simizine powder in suspension, so it needs a stir before use. Just turn the bottle upside down a few times will do the trick appently. Supplier says Simizine is getting harder to get - Nufarm has discontinued theirs. Wish they sold these chemicals in 5 or 10 litre bottles as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troppo View Post
    Just bought a 20 litre bottle of Gesatop 600SC by Syngenta . .
    Supplier says Simizine is getting harder to get - Nufarm has discontinued theirs. Wish they sold these chemicals in 5 or 10 litre bottles as well.
    These are basically Ag chemicals pitched at commercial/ broad-acre farm use and thus small packages are often not avail. Most farmers will be buying 100l or more of the stuff at a time.
    Plus, look at the price premium you pay for any smaller package.
    Some of it is due to transport cost - any size pack of most Ag chemise is treated as 'hazardous material' by transport/courier co's and you have to have it done by haz chem transporter who charge 'outrageous' prices compared to a standard courier.

    A fact of the way commercial regulations are

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    Default Re: Residual Path Weeder

    Quote Originally Posted by troppo View Post
    Just bought a 20 litre bottle of Gesatop 600SC by Syngenta - $220. It's a Simizine powder in suspension, so it needs a stir before use. Just turn the bottle upside down a few times will do the trick appently. Supplier says Simizine is getting harder to get - Nufarm has discontinued theirs. Wish they sold these chemicals in 5 or 10 litre bottles as well.
    Had a quick read of that label, says its a pre-emergent. It won't kill everything like Bantox does because bantox has glpho in it as well. Anyone tried using pre-emergent on crab grass infected areas on lawns, then topdressing and oversowing. I'd also like to use some on some garden beds to supress weed growth.

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    Default Re: Residual Path Weeder

    Had already planned on throwing in some glypho where needed. Will save me heaps of time in the long run, as it makes me a little grumpy having to continuously spray the same area every two weeks for weeds. 5 or 10 minutes on some of my jobs and 30 minutes on two commercials adds up real quick.

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    Default Re: Residual Path Weeder

    Quote Originally Posted by troppo View Post
    Had already planned on throwing in some glypho where needed. Will save me heaps of time in the long run, as it makes me a little grumpy having to continuously spray the same area every two weeks for weeds. 5 or 10 minutes on some of my jobs and 30 minutes on two commercials adds up real quick.
    Reading the label indicates that it is compatible with / can be mixed with glyphosate, but keep it agitated, esp if left to stand fir awhile.
    HOWEVER
    what is of greater concern is that it suggests that it should not be used annually (or more often) in the same location to avoid the risk of development of plants that are resistant / tolerant to group C herbicides (the tri-azine family).
    If we get development of resistance and these plants get into the agricultural areas, then we have a serious problem as then Simazine (& group C) herbicides are rendered useless.
    Unfortunately, some of these resistances develop from uses in non farm situations.

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    Has anyone used paspulam kill from bunnings to control crab grass and other grasses in a lawn situation? Active is 74g/L DSMA 24g/L MCPA


    Claims to control the following weeds in a lawn situation:-
    Paspalum, Crabgrass, Clovers, Summer Grass,
    Barnyard grass, Bindii, Capeweed, Catsear,
    Chickweed, Colula, Cudweed, Dandelion,
    Duckweed, Fleabane, Lamb’s Tongue,
    Mouse-Eared Chickweed, Mullumbimby couch,
    Nutgrass, Scarlet Pimpernel, Water couch, White Clover

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    Default Re: Residual Path Weeder

    And was it any good?

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