to run a business sucesfully and to cover the overheads and make a decent living a lot of the rates revealed on here are so undervalued ... to run a dollar a minute good luck to you and i wish you all the best as that was what the rate was 10 years ago.....yes the private forum has cricket noises because the value of the forum has dropped to a all time low in my view..back in the day the forum was full of great stuff and bullsh1t but it was a great talking and learning forum....the techincal aspects of machines is brilliant on this forum ..apart from that not much more unfortunaltly...