Independent LawnMowing Contractors Of Australia Forum

Thread: Things that make me grumpy

  1. #4441

    Default Re: Things that make me grumpy

    Quote Originally Posted by steveo View Post
    there seems to be a rush of scams at the moment. Was at a customers place yesterday and she said got a call from the tax office but she didn't get their details so she was worried it was important. I told her straight up it was a scam as the tax offive never rings anyone, and even if they did they'd said a letter eventually. So many vulnerable people out there and its just the tip of the iceberg we are seeing. The amount of online scamming must be huge.
    Don't know how many emails I have been getting saying the attached invoice is outstanding

  2. #4442
    Member Matt1972's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Albion Park NSW
    Posts
    239

    Default Re: Things that make me grumpy

    Quote Originally Posted by South East Mowing View Post
    Don't know how many emails I have been getting saying the attached invoice is outstanding
    I've been getting quite a few of those too. I've had a couple from Australia post telling me that a package couldn't be delivered and to click on the tracking number.

  3. #4443
    Senior Member Bluey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Adelaide
    Posts
    5,863

    Default Re: Things that make me grumpy

    Quote Originally Posted by South East Mowing View Post
    Don't know how many emails I have been getting saying the attached invoice is outstanding
    Yeah they will try anything. Never use your proper email openly on the net. Either use a form or if you have to supply an email online set up a couple as bot dumps and use one of those.


    I see lots of people who have webpages with their email proudly displayed. Scraper bots love these and you can guarantee you will be inundated with junk mail. Never ever be tempted to reply to to junk email and never open an attachment. Basically if you get an email from an unknown source treat it with distrust.

    Use your junk email filter and rules to limit it.
    Cheers

    Bluey
    Adelaide Home & Garden Solutions
    http://www.ahgs.com.au


    "Success occurs when no one is looking, failure occurs when everyone is watching."

  4. #4444

    Default Re: Things that make me grumpy

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Yeah they will try anything. Never use your proper email openly on the net. Either use a form or if you have to supply an email online set up a couple as bot dumps and use one of those.


    I see lots of people who have webpages with their email proudly displayed. Scraper bots love these and you can guarantee you will be inundated with junk mail. Never ever be tempted to reply to to junk email and never open an attachment. Basically if you get an email from an unknown source treat it with distrust.

    Use your junk email filter and rules to limit it.
    Not all necessarily coming in via business email. I have a few other email addresses they hit quite often also.

  5. #4445
    Senior Member BSD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Sth West Sydney.
    Posts
    1,361

    Default Re: Things that make me grumpy

    I have the occasional lassie who loves my pics and wants to come to Oz and meet me.

  6. #4446
    Senior Member Scooby Steve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    2,444

    Default Re: Things that make me grumpy

    Quote Originally Posted by BSD View Post
    I have the occasional lassie who loves my pics and wants to come to Oz and meet me.
    Sounds like a solid foundation for a long term relationship. Either that or a prince from Nigeria (( :

  7. #4447
    Member hjl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Stanthorpe Qld
    Posts
    834

    Default Re: Things that make me grumpy

    Beer bobs are starting again around here. Makes me grumpy. I know they will wear themselves and their cheap gear out but it takes some of my business away until that happens.
    Latest one doing one of my casual jobs for $30 that I charge $70 for. I thought I was cheap for a 1/2 acre block but this young fellow is way to cheap. Rant over.
    hjl

  8. #4448
    Senior Member NLALM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Newcastle NSW
    Posts
    1,760

    Default Re: Things that make me grumpy

    Quote Originally Posted by hjl View Post
    Beer bobs are starting again around here. Makes me grumpy. I know they will wear themselves and their cheap gear out but it takes some of my business away until that happens.
    Latest one doing one of my casual jobs for $30 that I charge $70 for. I thought I was cheap for a 1/2 acre block but this young fellow is way to cheap. Rant over.
    hjl
    Mate its happening everywhere , its a real kick in the guts when things like that happen. $30 and you were charging $70 where are we heading

  9. #4449
    Senior Member BSD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Sth West Sydney.
    Posts
    1,361

    Default Re: Things that make me grumpy

    Quote Originally Posted by NLALM View Post
    Mate its happening everywhere , its a real kick in the guts when things like that happen. $30 and you were charging $70 where are we heading
    This is a regular thing every year from what I've been reading. We/you/I/ cant stop it so just suck it up and mow grass.

  10. #4450
    Senior Member geoff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Clyde
    Posts
    3,528

    Default Re: Things that make me grumpy

    hey its ok ive got them in my area and what happens they get fully booked at cheap rates they cannot take on anymore work and as always the cream rises to the top .

    today i was working at a nice garden next to a gardener that charges 25 -30 bucks an hour ,they were bragging how busy they are and asked me if i wanted the overflow of their work quotes..just smiled and said naa i be right ..they previously did the garden that i was doing but took them a day to do so that was 200 bucks odd...i did the same with shindy pole hedger vs their hand shears in 2 hours and made 350 bucks ...i am pretty happy these beer bobs pop up because they get fully booked ,do a sh1t job and leave us to make serious dollars ....in my area customers do watch you and know who is good and who is bad ...today the lady slipped an extra 50 on top of the 350 so that was nice ...bought the mrs some flowers hahahaha

  11. #4451
    Senior Member Bluey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Adelaide
    Posts
    5,863

    Default Re: Things that make me grumpy

    Whilst it is a reality it is still bloody annoying and hurting us all in the long run because it conditions people to think they can get work done at really cheap rates. I have tried to talk to a couple of these blokes and explain why they need to charge higher. Invariably they will say I am only just starting out and need to build up my customers. They come from a job where they were earning $24 an hr and think $30 or $40 is a huge amount to earn. What they dont do is work out how much it costs them to actually run their business and charge accordingly. And most dont really care when you point this out to them.

    With the economy the way it is now customers are chasing everything cheaper. I have lost count of the quotes I have done where the person almost chokes and has a fit when you tell them their lawn will cost $50 every 2 weeks and they say the last bloke was doing it for $20 every month.

    So no matter what you think they are in fact harming us all. They drive down prices, do shoddy work and damage the market. They give us all a bad reputation where the public thinks we are all **** kickers who have lost their job and will work for peanuts

    There are no doubt many of them trolling this actual page and reading this thread. If you are I say this. Get serious and get your shyte together or bugger off to another form of work.
    Cheers

    Bluey
    Adelaide Home & Garden Solutions
    http://www.ahgs.com.au


    "Success occurs when no one is looking, failure occurs when everyone is watching."

  12. #4452
    Senior Member NLALM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Newcastle NSW
    Posts
    1,760

    Default Re: Things that make me grumpy

    Quote Originally Posted by bluey View Post
    whilst it is a reality it is still bloody annoying and hurting us all in the long run because it conditions people to think they can get work done at really cheap rates. I have tried to talk to a couple of these blokes and explain why they need to charge higher. Invariably they will say i am only just starting out and need to build up my customers. They come from a job where they were earning $24 an hr and think $30 or $40 is a huge amount to earn. What they dont do is work out how much it costs them to actually run their business and charge accordingly. And most dont really care when you point this out to them.

    With the economy the way it is now customers are chasing everything cheaper. I have lost count of the quotes i have done where the person almost chokes and has a fit when you tell them their lawn will cost $50 every 2 weeks and they say the last bloke was doing it for $20 every month.

    So no matter what you think they are in fact harming us all. They drive down prices, do shoddy work and damage the market. They give us all a bad reputation where the public thinks we are all **** kickers who have lost their job and will work for peanuts

    there are no doubt many of them trolling this actual page and reading this thread. If you are i say this. Get serious and get your shyte together or bugger off to another form of work.

    exactly ...thankyou.............................

  13. #4453
    Senior Member geoff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Clyde
    Posts
    3,528

    Default Re: Things that make me grumpy

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Whilst it is a reality it is still bloody annoying and hurting us all in the long run because it conditions people to think they can get work done at really cheap rates. I have tried to talk to a couple of these blokes and explain why they need to charge higher. Invariably they will say I am only just starting out and need to build up my customers. They come from a job where they were earning $24 an hr and think $30 or $40 is a huge amount to earn. What they dont do is work out how much it costs them to actually run their business and charge accordingly. And most dont really care when you point this out to them.

    With the economy the way it is now customers are chasing everything cheaper. I have lost count of the quotes I have done where the person almost chokes and has a fit when you tell them their lawn will cost $50 every 2 weeks and they say the last bloke was doing it for $20 every month.

    So no matter what you think they are in fact harming us all. They drive down prices, do shoddy work and damage the market. They give us all a bad reputation where the public thinks we are all **** kickers who have lost their job and will work for peanuts

    There are no doubt many of them trolling this actual page and reading this thread. If you are I say this. Get serious and get your shyte together or bugger off to another form of work.
    some very good points there ...however i still stress if you are starting up or running a good business you need to be professional...you should from day one have all the good stuff including uniform ....if i started up a coffee shop i would not just have a card table and a little jug to boil the water ..so why would i just have the basic lawn mowing stuff like the beer bobs.....presenting to the customer a professional unit will put ypou ahead of these guys...and if the cuatomer wants just a beer bob price they are not what you want in business ..instead of you blokes whinging about the cheap ones fight back with a professional unit ...but knowing this forum will get me hed kicked in...lol

  14. #4454
    Member Redeye's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Shoalhaven ,NSW
    Posts
    5,548

    Default Re: Things that make me grumpy

    well said Geoff - nice analogy with the coffee shop




    http://curraronggardening.com/

    "All sin is washed away in the Holy goodness of Beer"
    Book of Redeye, Psalm 69

  15. #4455

    Thumbs up Re: Things that make me grumpy

    Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
    some very good points there ...however i still stress if you are starting up or running a good business you need to be professional...you should from day one have all the good stuff including uniform ....if i started up a coffee shop i would not just have a card table and a little jug to boil the water ..so why would i just have the basic lawn mowing stuff like the beer bobs.....presenting to the customer a professional unit will put ypou ahead of these guys...and if the cuatomer wants just a beer bob price they are not what you want in business ..instead of you blokes whinging about the cheap ones fight back with a professional unit ...but knowing this forum will get me hed kicked in...lol
    Agree totally!

    Many people get into this business though often because of hardship and do whatever they can to get going.
    You can still do a professional job, look professional even with cheap gear - how long for is another thing.
    It's the guy who listens, watch and seek out help that learn quickly what Geoff said is the real way to earn a modest living in this business.

Page 297 of 333 FirstFirst 123456789101112131415161718192021222324252627282930313233343536373839404142434445464748495051525354555657585960616263646566676869707172737475767778798081828384858687888990919293949596979899100101102103104105106107108109110111112113114115116117118119120121122123124125126127128129130131132133134135136137138139140141142143144145146147148149150151152153154155156157158159160161162163164165166167168169170171172173174175176177178179180181182183184185186187188189190191192193194195196197198199200201202203204205206207208209210211212213214215216217218219220221222223224225226227228229230231232233234235236237238239240241242243244245246247248249250251252253254255256257258259260261262263264265266267268269270271272273274275276277278279280281282283284285286287288289290291292293294295296297298299300301302303304305306307308309310311312313314315316317318319320321322323324325326327328329330331332333 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •