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    Quote Originally Posted by imoww View Post
    Whats a good rate to charge for pruning roses?
    your good hourly rate mate plus profit and tip fees plus time

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    Some Roses are fine to trim with the hedge trimmer, but it depends on the variety. A lot of the old Teas and floribundas are fine to do with the hedge trimmer, but Hybrid teas need to be done the proper way. If you have standard Iceberg Roses, next time they need trimming treat them like any other standard shrub and you will have a perfect display around 6 weeks later. Every 3rd of 4th year you can clean them out with secateurs, but otherwise hit them with the hedger and see what happens. It is how I always did mine. People were horrified when I did it, but 6 weeks later they would always say how good they were.

    The Rose hedge at Flemington along the straight is called 'Crepuscule'- which means dawn in French or something like that. It is the apricot coloured Rose. I planted over 200 of them at a job and treated it like a normal hedge and it used to put on an awesome show.

    A lot of Roses are much tougher than the experts make out.
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    been doing my icebergs with hedge shears for years and people usually tell me how good they look just waiting for them to stop flowering and they will get another good going over with the multitool hedger then i will drag the clippings onto the lawn and run over them with the mulcher 25 standards pruned and finished in less than an hour
    Anything Ian says may or may not be garbage, it may also be his own opinion or it may not be his opinion at all, it may just be something he felt like stating anyone following his advice does so at their own risk and may be doing something Ian would actually advise against.
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    Exactly Ian. I see some people spending hours on their Icebergs but there is no need to. The tricky part is waiting for them to have a spell between flushes. This was my old house.
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    stripes just read your post
    i pruned mine in the beginning of March so they would flower for my daughters birthday in the beginning of May but the weather turned really cold just after this and they didn't flower until about 2 weeks ago. look great at the moment though som probably won't get pruned again until mid-late August
    Anything Ian says may or may not be garbage, it may also be his own opinion or it may not be his opinion at all, it may just be something he felt like stating anyone following his advice does so at their own risk and may be doing something Ian would actually advise against.
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    People who call to arrange a quote, give their name, address and phone number.

    Then address doesn't exist on google maps, and phone number is for a completely different person who has no idea who they are.

    Just ****s me, as the quote was supposedly to mow an acre, and I've been itching to give my ZTR a good test run. GRRRRRR!
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    Quote Originally Posted by imoww View Post
    Whats a good rate to charge for pruning roses?
    Geoff's right. Hourly rate plus dumping. Remember it generates a fair bit of waste product that is hard to handle depending on the variety of the rose. I actually quite enjoy doing roses but I don't rush it. Have never thought of using a hedger but just might on one property I do that has a lot of icebergs. Worth a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Geoff's right. Hourly rate plus dumping. Remember it generates a fair bit of waste product that is hard to handle depending on the variety of the rose. I actually quite enjoy doing roses but I don't rush it. Have never thought of using a hedger but just might on one property I do that has a lot of icebergs. Worth a try.
    if nothing else use the hedger to get the roses down to a more manageable level and finish/tidy up with secateurs
    Anything Ian says may or may not be garbage, it may also be his own opinion or it may not be his opinion at all, it may just be something he felt like stating anyone following his advice does so at their own risk and may be doing something Ian would actually advise against.
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    Buying a new stihl hedger that is a prick to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Geoff's right. Hourly rate plus dumping. Remember it generates a fair bit of waste product that is hard to handle depending on the variety of the rose. I actually quite enjoy doing roses but I don't rush it. Have never thought of using a hedger but just might on one property I do that has a lot of icebergs. Worth a try.
    Yes Bluey, the icebergs shold be fine with a hedgecutter but as stripes said they should be cleaned out every few years to allow a little more airflow.
    Icebergs r quite disease resistant therefor dont require as much of their centre removed as other roses that suffer more from fungus diseases.
    However, I would'nt advocate using a hedgecutter on old fashioned quality roses with thicker stems, you'll simply make a mess!
    You wont look back at the end of the job & get any satisfaction.
    My clients would'nt tolerate this, & personally niether would I.
    It does'nt take alot more effort to do it right & the roses will flourish, not just look OK
    Cheers Fred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Have never thought of using a hedger but just might on one property I do that has a lot of icebergs. Worth a try.
    Icebergs love hedgers, I have done it on a couple of my jobs over the last few years, and they come back better than before. I wouldnt use one on the older fashioned roses though.

    Having said that the best thing for roses is Glyphosate.

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    If you're doing alot of roses, throw all the cuttings into a pile, then take the hedgecutter (preferably pole) to them. You will reduce them 10 fold!
    Cheers Fred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AYM View Post
    People who call to arrange a quote, give their name, address and phone number.

    Then address doesn't exist on google maps, and phone number is for a completely different person who has no idea who they are.

    Just ****s me, as the quote was supposedly to mow an acre, and I've been itching to give my ZTR a good test run. GRRRRRR!
    Maybe your competition giving you the run around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred's mowing View Post
    If you're doing alot of roses, throw all the cuttings into a pile, then take the hedgecutter (preferably pole) to them. You will reduce them 10 fold!
    Cheers Fred.
    i always throw all the cuttings on to a length of ol' shade cloth i carry around then throw it into the trailer

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    Quote Originally Posted by danz View Post
    Buying a new stihl hedger that is a prick to start.
    is it stihl hard to start

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